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July 13, 2009

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Mama Zen

You are absolutely right.

rockync

Whether it's a failed marriage or a failed business venture, whatever, there is some merit to analyzing the whole thing if for no other reason than to identify the things you don't want to repeat.
And I don't think there was much you could do with someone like exman. He is too comfortable in his sickness.
But don't spend too much time fretting over those "wasted" years - look at the two precious gems that came from it - and I'd bet you wouldn't trade either of them to get any of those years back, would you?

Geo

I used to have a friend with who I am not 'allowed' to be friends any more because her husband used to beat her senseless at the very utterance of another man's name. Of course these were in the days when the 'Oh I got hit by the door knob' excuse still flew, even though it would have had to have been one hell of a door knob.
'But he needs me,' was the pathetic reasoning she would burble through a busted lip.
After twenty-five years they are still together. Last time I saw her, she looked like shit. For someone who once had dreams of being a model and seeing the world, she has largely seen the inside of a mobile home. And probably a few door knobs along the way.
I often wonder what kind of logic-defying excuses people will create just so they can cling to an *idea* and how long it finally takes to realise that they have entirely wasted their time.
When I was married (much longer story) it was six months before I knew that the woman I was with was no longer the woman I married. Mostly because she 'secretly'(or so she imagined) became someone else's girlfriend in that time. This happened because I was 'too nice,' or so went one of the logic-defying excuses.
Sometimes I just don't understand...

Anastasia

Realising that silence is not the solution to domestic violence- whether this is physical or verbal - is making an important step towards happiness, dignity and self-respect.

Dingo

You've hit upon one of the reasons that I think many people stay in abusive relationships. No matter how many times people are hit with fists or with words, if they believe that the person loves them there's this twist sense of hope that things can/will get better or that the person will change. One of the most difficult things to realize is that no, this abuser does NOT love you. I think for some, that hurts more than the physical and emotional abuse.

rockync

Dingo said,"One of the most difficult things to realize is that no, this abuser does NOT love you. I think for some, that hurts more than the physical and emotional abuse."

So true and I think the decision to leave the relationship comes when the abused finally realizes their abuser is incapable of loving anyone. And then realizing that they themselves ARE lovable and deserve to be loved by someone.

I had a family member who remained in an abusive relationship for years. It was frustrating and scary to watch but nothing I said or did could convince her to get out - the years of battering had so ingrained a sense of worthlessness in her. I had to wait for her own sense of self-preservation to kick in and for her little voice to convince her she was so much better than that.


JC

If we loved ourselves first and realized our own self worth as individuals, we wouldn't abuse others. Exman doesn't love or even like himself and will never change (not if he's calling you horrible names just exchanging the dog, for crying out loud). Thankfully, this is not the case with you. You're just beginning your new life. He's a sad little man.

Beth

I'm experiencing such a wonderful sense of freedom living without the verbal assaults. Spent far too long "adapting." No matter what life may bring, living like this is so much better.
Here's to us and our ability to say and do and feel anything we like!

Laura of Rebellious Thoughts of a Woman

Mama Zen, I'm glad I finally came to that realization. It's time certainly had come.

Geo, I'm so sorry for your front. What a life. in psychology there's a theory (whose name I can't remember) that partially explains the staying in: the longer we commit to something (are entrenched in it), the more difficult it will be to leave it because of that commitment. Just think of people at a bus stop, the longer you wait, the more inclined you are to keep waiting--since you've already so much of yourself in the wait.

The too-nice theory works in perhaps people using you but certainly not in your causing their activity. Sorry about that death of a marriage.

Anastasia, so true, the voiceless need to find their voices.

Dingo, but perhaps that realization, that the person can't love, is the only thing that can really get someone out of the situation. No, you cannot make a loveless person full of love. No, you cannot love a person into being full of love.

rockync, I hope I'm done with the analysis. As I say to my mother: I don't want to talk about him. I regret that they lived through this, but don't doubt that I had to do it. Them in my life: as my younger daughter wrote in a Mother's Day card: "I'm happy that you were born so that I could be born."

I don't know when I realized that he can't love. Before that I realized that he can't determine (or undermine) my worth.

JC, amen to that.

Beth, here's to big mouths! Here's to adapting to life as it should be lived!

rockync

Here's to you, Beth and Laura - living la vida buena!

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