Looking for Love on Craig’s List: Coffee Anyone?
September 02, 2008
Contrary to prior pronouncements, on Saturday I “consulted” Craig’s List personals. My intense feeling of being beaten down, of not being in control of my life, of needing to be outside of my box in even a small way, caused this pledge breaker. I answered one ad, because there was only one that seemed to correspond with a man who might be, well, a decent human being.
No, I am not interested in being spanked. No, I am not interested in dominating you. No, I am not interested in your dominated me. No, I am not interested in your need to bring passion to your life because you are in a passionless marriage. No, I am not slender. No, I do not come without baggage. No, I am not interested in going on a ride on your bike. No, I am not fascinated by your need to write a full-page ad about how wonderful you are.
And when I un-ranaway on Saturday, I had a response from that possibly decent man. And following through on this need of movement, the correspondence was brief and to the point. We set up a date for coffee on Sunday afternoon. When he suggested that we go to the coffee shop I had mentioned off-handedly, I was tempted to say “No, no you can’t come to my place.” But I decided to go with the flow here; why not meet in my favorite coffee shop? Will he stalk me for ever after? Again, trusting my ability to know when to flow, I flowed and agreed to meet there.
When I walked in at precisely the right time, he was sitting there, with a cup of coffee in front of him. Oy. I was ready to leave.
My last date also had his coffee before I got there. What is with these men? Mr. Previous waited at the table outside of Panera’s as I went in and got my lemonade. Yes, I eschewed coffee. I wanted to have some tartness in my drink, at least, for all hope of a charming date had flown the coop with that cheap maneuver. I admit it, I am a feminist, except when it comes to men paying on a date, at least in the beginning. If he can’t rise to the occasion for a $2 cup of coffee or lemonade, what hope is there for the future? Generosity of spirit has got to start somewhere.
I’m not sure if my face fell or if I was able to hold it up, but to his credit he got up immediately and offered to get me something. (There is still the strike of impatience that is being held against him, but I don’t hold grudges for too long.) Yes, I permitted him to buy me a cup of iced coffee. And then we sat outside and talked for an hour and a half. And I was not tempted in the least to provide a point-by-point account against the ex, I just didn’t want to, it was—is—not who I am now. And as my friend said to me the next day when I told her this, “good for you;” I am glad that I no longer define myself through that experience.
When we walked back inside the coffee shop to go potty, there was a friend’s husband (thankfully he was not at my usual table). The man, my friend and I discovered in very heart-wrenching discussions, is my ex’s twin. A man who could go count for count opposite my ex in behavior toward his wife and daughters. Ugh. What a way to end a date.
Outside, the hopefully decent, yet impatient man, told me how much he enjoyed our date and how attractive I am. Did I say anything about his being impatient? I meant to say that he is perceptive. And he asked if I would like to go out for dinner on Friday. Sounds nice to me.
Laura, so good to hear about this date. I myself is in the same spot as you are. We all seek for connection. I hope this turns out well. It wouldn't hurt to be a little optimistic and less of a cynic... :)
Posted by: Soul | September 02, 2008 at 08:17 AM
Your new layout looks great. And the attitude is mighty nice too. Your friend is right, good for you!
Posted by: Christine | September 02, 2008 at 03:57 PM
Soul, well good for us for looking for connection in spite of it all. And in spite of it all we have not given up on hoping to find what we deserve--the good that we deserve. Cynical? Oh, you mean my realism. As you can see, my life constantly waivers between pessimism, optimism, cynicism, and hope keeping us all on our toes.
Christine, thanks for noticing my new "outfit." I was quite excited to find this design. I'm on an upswing. As I say, you can't keep me down for long. (Well, it is sujective.) Anyway. Thanks for the kind words.
Posted by: Laura of Rebellious Thoughts of a Woman | September 02, 2008 at 05:11 PM
I hope you have a wonderful time on Friday. Enjoy the evening, you deserve some fun in your life.
Bill
Posted by: Bill | September 02, 2008 at 05:15 PM
hah - you're so right! Not paying for a $2 coffee - or even waiting for you to arrive - is kind of crass. But at the same time, it probably feels weird to walk into the place and not purchase anything.
I'm glad it went well. I have had zero luck w/ any kind of online dating, and have thrown in the towel.
Posted by: April | September 03, 2008 at 09:57 AM
Hope is the cream and sugar in your coffee cup of realism, it takes the edge off the bitterness that is part of life.
I am happy for you that you no longer paint your self portrait with the X's brush strokes. Here's hoping your impatient, perceptive man sees the beauty you see in yourself. Have a wonderful time on Friday . . . and let us know if he picks up the tab!!!
Posted by: Judith | September 04, 2008 at 06:49 AM
April, I'll give him a pass on getting the coffee, and, like you said, I think he was probably nervous. I was, after all, his first date since the demise of his marriage. Regarding online dating, I don't know where else I can meet anyone. I teach, and, well, there aren't many men there. And, I met my ex on a bus, so the whole kismet in the street thing doesn't have so much appeal to me. I guess I'm casting out my net as opposed to dropping bait.
Judith, what coffee cup poetry! I must tell you that I drink my coffee without sugar--I guess bitter goes to bitter. But, I have been known to "dabble" in pastries.
Posted by: Laura of Rebellious Thoughts of a Woman | September 04, 2008 at 04:00 PM
Hi there, I am enjoying your blog, jsut started reading it, I like how you have broken it in to different categories. I am puzzled about the coffee 'date' where the man was already sitting there with his coffee. I had this experience recently though I did have a different reaction to it. I did not think anything about it, that he was 'cheap' or anything else, if I did briefly think something it was that he might have felt uncomfortable sitting there with nothing. I guess I wonder about the expectation that the man would pay for the 1st coffee, I don't have that expectation and I am not saying it is wrong if you do, just that we are all different... I sometimes think that whoever asked the other (whether man or woman) would offer to pay, but just as a pleasant thing to do not really an expectation. I would be interested in your and others thoughts on this. Thanks. Cathleen
Posted by: Cathleen Hart | December 02, 2008 at 06:19 PM
Cathleen, thanks for coming by, and I'm glad that you enjoy reading my posts.
I don't know, I got to a date early a few times before the man in question and I never ordered anything before he arrived. It's just plain common courtesy. I do the same thing with friends, it's no big deal, just wait. Maybe it's a sign of his lack of self-confidence, which is a pretty big sign in and of itself.
And regarding having the man pay, on that I think I am a bit old-fashioned, and perhaps it is another one of my ways of seeing if we are suitable, although most have risen to the challenge. All but one guy who bought his coffee first and did not get up to get my coffee. It just feels cheap to me.
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